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Rachel Shukert is the author of Have You No Shame? Condition of the Show: Contending with tenuous widows and the mysterious circumstances of Mr. Segundo s death. Author: Rachel Shukert Subjects Discussed: [List forthcoming] EXCERPT FROM SHOW: Shukert: Jason Priestly and Fred Savage were the two guys on TV who I had big crushes on as a child. I had a picture of Fred Savage in my locker that I cut out from the newspaper. I remember that he was holding a candy box. Like a Valentine s heart box. And I would pretend that he was holding it for me. And then when I got a little older, I thought Jason Priestly was the handsomest man I had ever seen. I mean, when I say a little older, I mean ten. But I had a big poster of him in my room too. Correspondent: Who was the first crush you had? Shukert: Gene Kelly. Correspondent: Really? And he s not referenced in the book. Shukert: No. That s private. (laughs) Correspondent: Not anymore. It s public now. But this is an interesting distinction. Are you slightly ashamed of these crushes? Shukert: No, I m not ashamed. But there s a difference between being ashamed of something and just having something close to your heart. (laughs) Correspondent: Wow. Well, I m curious. How much does a crush linger over the course of one s life like this? I mean, you can be safe with Jason Priestly and Fred Savage, but Shukert: I don t have crushes on them anymore. Correspondent: But you still have a crush on Gene Kelly. Shukert: Yes, but he s dead. Correspondent: He s dead. The dead people are the ones to really lust after the best. Shukert: Yeah, I think that that s true. Correspondent: Because there s no way that you can possibly consummate it. Shukert: I also loved Paul Newman as a child. Correspondent: What are you going to do when he dies? Shukert: I ll be sad. I ll mourn like a widow.