Is The Reverse Funnel System A Scam? --- Ty Coughlin and RFS System Exposed and Explained...   August 26, 2007

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Jump In TODAY,See ya.............Tim

iberrydam,
Although I do not use RFS, I agree that GRN is by far a great opportunity to promote and if anyone is looking to get involved in this business, I agree with prosperityvideos to due your diligence and find a sponsor that is going to take the time and assist you on helping get you off of the ground. There are alot of people that are new at marketing that have been left out in the cold.

2008 is going to be GREAT!
Linda

I will tell you something. I am a middle aged professional who is also a mom. I refuse to work outside the home like I have been for 25 years!! The Reverse Funnel System along with GRN is by far the best opportunity I have ever encountered. Do yourself a favor-get into this business, you will be glad you did.

That was my deciding factor too. I am picky about what I promote. For me money isn't everything if I can't stand behind something it's impossible for me to promote it. Not if I want to sleep at night! :)

This is a simple pyramid scheme that will peter out eventually. Do you even actually have a worthwhile product? Who the hell travels in a travel club? Scam pure and simple.

I'd like to wish everyone a Healthy, Prosperous and Happy New Year!
www.globalresortsnetwork.com/lw

Happy New Year To everybody reading this post!! Let's make 2008 a wonderful year.
Everybody that has taken advantage of GRN already is in a great position to absolutely create a exteremely prosporous year.

For those of you out there that is still taking a good look at this business....Stop What You Are Doing..... and get on the bus!! This Business Rocks.. God Bless
www.GrnFacts.com

Love your vids!!!

This is what makes marketing products online so much fun!

Get creative, have some fun and best of all make money while goofing off.

If there are any "lurkers" that are thinking about getting involved with the Reverse Funnel System, I think you might be getting onboard. This self-employed lifestyle is a blast!

There's more than enough support and encouragement out there to make it happen for yourself. I have been offering mentorship services to entrepreneurs for quite some time.

For those "fence sitters", make sure you get my report on driving traffic on the internet, it's free and will be sent directly to your inbox.

If there are some folks that need support in creating time and finding the right mindset for success, I also wrote a book called The Positive Mind which helps folks get in the right frame of mind to create success, for those that get in touch with me, I will send that along as well.

Out for now...Got some last minute Christmas shopping to do...Yikes....

ProsperityVideos- I couldn't have said it better myself. That is something I have always tried to convey to the people I care about especially my children. Mindsets are so important in life yet negative ones are the hardest thing to break. I've always taught my kids that they can do anything they put their mind to because that's what my mother taught me. That includes business and anything else that's related to life. I'm not preaching at anyone but there is a scripture worth mentioning here that pertains to this and backs this up. It says "Whatsoever a man thinks, so is he" If a person doesn't get their thinking straight first then they will never take the actions to change their life. I have seen this in action time and time again in many areas of life with many people.

Hey ProsperityVideos - We really gotta have a voice chat sometime. I love your attitude.
It's a positive attitude that is essential for hitting it big time.
If you want to talk sometime send me your contact details.

My email address is:
mcdoog at flyonthewallclub.com

Look forward to hearing from you

Congrats Barb!

Please save this page to your favorites and post your results after you've been in for a couple of months.

I think it's interesting to everyone to see results.

What would you say is your plan to separate yourself from all the other RFS sites?

I think this is a really important part of the marketing process. Especially when promoting a system that so many other people are also promoting.

SanusSpeakerStands,

I really think you've got something with you're idea of simplifying the home theater jargon. I'm into high end audio as well and look forward to checking in on your site periodically.

ProsperityVideos,

You hit the nail on the head! Supporting your affiliate partners and even "hand holding" at times is just part of helping others to succeed in this industry. Great stuff!

Just wanted to throw in my two cents worth. I joined Reverse Funnel System almost two weeks ago. Do I expect to have everything handed to me on a silver platter? Nope. Like with everything else in life you get out what you put into it. I have been getting traffic but haven't got the ball rolling yet. Am I going to whine and give up on it because it didn't happen over night? Nope I am going to continue on my path until things start coming together. I know once they do it will snowball very quickly. I agree with what's been said here. When I build my team I have every intention of supporting and training them. This is a great system with a great product and am looking forward to taking my handy dandy laptop and going on one of those vacations through GBN!

Just wanted to throw in my two cents worth. I joined Reverse Funnel System almost two weeks ago. Do I expect to have everything handed to me on a silver platter? Nope. Like with everything else in life you get out what you put into it. I have been getting traffic but haven't got the ball rolling yet. Am I going to whine and give up on it because it didn't happen over night? Nope I am going to continue on my path until things start coming together. I know once they do it will snowball very quickly. I agree with what's been said here. When I build my team I have every intention of supporting and training them. This is a great system with a great product and am looking forward to taking my handy dandy laptop and going on one of those vacations through GBN!

Just wanted to throw in my two cents worth. I joined Reverse Funnel System almost two weeks ago. Do I expect to have everything handed to me on a silver platter? Nope. Like with everything else in life you get out what you put into it. I have been getting traffic but haven't got the ball rolling yet. Am I going to whine and give up on it because it didn't happen over night? Nope I am going to continue on my path until things start coming together. I know once they do it will snowball very quickly. I agree with what's been said here. When I build my team I have every intention of supporting and training them. This is a great system with a great product and am looking forward to taking my handy dandy laptop and going on one of those vacations through GBN!

haha,

Whats up honest engine. Good looks on your perspective my friend. Ya seem like an honest dude!

People REALLY REALLY REALLY need to understand what being an entrepreneur is when they start out to actually make any money in this industry.

Being an entrepreneur is not about getting rich over night, or living inside these fantasies in your head and all that crap.

In fact, I was listening to a home study course I bought last night, that is the recording of a seminar put on for $10,000 for 3 days.

I paid $1500 just for the video recording of the seminar.

(SIDE NOTE: the cost of RFS and GRN is jack SH*T compared to what it costs to get a real internet marketing education...which we TEACH for free)

Anyways, in one part of the seminar they have Tony Schwartz come on to speak. Now this is a man who has spent his LIFE studying the highest performers in the world.

The worlds best of the best in business, sports, all sorts of things. And it was fascinating what they discovered about what it is that really allows human beings to operate at their PEAK POTENTIAL.

To really live out their full capacity.

I'm not going to get into cause its huge and you will probably be able to find my YouTube videos where I share most of the content I learn, but it was basically about how to rejuvenate the 4 major energy sources humans need to operate at full peak performance.

- Physical
- Emotional
- Mental
- Spiritual

My point with all this is...who do you think is going to be successful in life?

Do you think the people that are looking to just get rich quick over night, and do nothing, and have everything are going to be very successful in life?

Does it even make sense? Of course it doesn't. It's OBVIOUS that those who take the TIME to develop real skills, learn real knowledge, strive to be BETTER ENTREPRENEURS and human beings are going to continually create more success.

It's obvious. It need not be said.

So the only question becomes...what do you WANT in life?

And what are you willing to do to create that reality for yourself?

Honestly, if you don't want to be a real entrepreneur, if you don't want to work hard, if you dont' want to strive to be better and better and better and really GROW in life...then don't try to be an entrepreneur.

Don't do this, or ANY other business opportunity period.

Because the mindset that wants to get rich quick, expects things for nothing, and isn't willing to GROW and experience and learn...is NOT going to create success.

I barely EVER see negative, pessimistic, un willing to grow attitudes and philosophies create success.

But I SYSTEMATICALLY see people who LOVE the journey, they love GROWING, they love understanding business and success and mindset at a deeper level...I see them experiencing more success and growing all the time.

It's amazing. I have a 19 year old who I brought into this industry a sopping wet newbie 6 months ago. When he came in, he didn't know squat. yet I hooked him up with all my courses, spent time with him, just mentored when I could...and he's taken off like a little fire cracker this month.

Made $4500 this month. And you know what, he DESERVES it. Because of his work ethic, his spirit, his heart, his drive...

THOSE are the people I want to work with. I don't want to work with anyone else.

I want to work with those who really want to be the best of the best. They want to grow, learn, and prosper.

And flat out...this system converts. The damn thing will spit money at anyone who is driving consistent traffic through their system.

This isn't for everybody. That's obvious. There are millions of other things people can do online.

But the bottom line is, if people want an automated system that actually closes sales and does it consistently, then this is CLEARLY the best thing existing in the industry to do that.

Thus, you have seen very credible people promoting it because they look at DATA and make conclusions based on information.

But if you want to do the old school thing of calling leads, presentations, teleconferences and all that jazz...then make it happen.

Theres a million ways to build businesses. Just pick what fits you best, and do it.

But hopefully everybody took the main point out of this which is the BEING a real entrepreneur first and foremost...

That's the key my friends. :)

Once you got that, you can be successful at damn near anything. Trust!!

All the best,
Jonathan

Ha Ha Ha You know what's sooo funny about this!?!? THis is the number ONE listing for 'reverse funnel system' on google as organic search!!! Google must find this feed extremely relevant!! So all you reverse funnel Koolaid drinkers drink up, anytime anyone does a search for "reverse funnel system" this feed is popping up #1 ha ha You guys really sound like the RFS mafia or something...I guess you're the Reverse Funnel Authority!

Does Reverse Funnel System work? Like crazy Mojo!! It is a very well designed system, no one can deny that...is it dishonest? well...lets examine the facts! Anyone who tells you that it is "simply" and "easily" to be making 5 to 10 grand a week...edited HA AH!! THere may be a select few (like maybe a hundred? vs the thousands who have joined...see, the 20 percent are making the cash off the other 80% LOL)who are making that much, but tell me is'simple' and 'easy' LOL 50 hours a week plus the advertising budget, simple and easy? the customer service for RFS - for 300 bucks a month? Laughable. Ridiculous...All the after market tweaking...If its so simple and easy, why are so many people making videos and touting how good it works?

The answer I will get from Team RFS is dude this is a business, if you can't handle it go get a job, all i'm sayin is it isnt as easy as they tell you it is, its a really complicated system! Its NOT for part timers!!You cannot deny that and tell me its easy cheesy and you're footloose and fancy free, unless you are a major player like Ty Coughlin, the beach bum!! HA HA I understand that he was a major player in Liberty League so what's with the load of crap about being a construction worker and all that bullshit?
Ok here's the real Honest Engine answer: if you want a system that converts people with intense emotional tweaking, without having to call them, that over promises and under delivers, then reverse funnel is for you. If you dont care who joins your team or if they are capable of doing the work, RFS is for you. If you are really tech savvy, have about 30 to 50 hours a week to paste advertising, emails, forums, banners, videos, blogs, smoke signals, myspacing, craigslist posting et al AND a budget of at least 1000 bucks a month, then RFS is for you. LOL

What is clear from these different opinions is that "it has to be that way" (hyped up) in order for people to take action, translates to = "it has to be dishonest" otherwise, no one would buy this load of horse manure so easily.

Global Resorts Network is an awesome product by the way, so you do get an awesome product for your buy in, but for 300 dollars a month, i'm disappointed...if you are researching RFS and considering joining, do yourself a favor, join Jonathan and Franco's team over at thewealthyinnercircle.com They are the 800# gorilla resources,the are the RFs authority, your most likely place to succeed in your RFS business. if you want to market global resorts network without all they hype (and the 300bucks a month back office)and build your business the more traditional way (3 way calls, sales training, transparency, telemarketed leads) then it appears you should join chad bates team. Or you could always just Get a JOB like me!! HA HA Honest Engine

Thanks, Jonathan. I'll be in touch.

Frankly, I surprised you let these "nay sayers" get under your skin, as it appears you do. I heard once "A man (read, person) of integrity expects to be believed, and when he's not he lets time prove him right.

Thanks,
"Russ"

Hi,
I've been reading the comments here as part of my research into the RFS. It seems to me that this is no different than most things in life: It is what you make of it.

Obviously, you check it out to determine as best as you can weather it will be a good fit for you, or not. Then learn, and give it your all.

I'm intrigued by the RF system (and systems in general), enough to want to learn more. I paid my $50, but believe before "signing up" that I can do so with a team that is committed to my success, and of those I bring on board.

I would welcome any suggestions on how to find just such a team.

Thanks,
Russ

Hey there,

I have been with this RFS for a month & I must say this thing is all up to you & of how bad you want to succeed.
It's all about commitment,its not all about the money that's going to make you rich,it's how your committed & of what your committed to.As for myself,I love the travel discount through GRN of whom the RFS is affilliated with,there's the product & you know as well as EVERYONE should know that nothing in life is guaranteed,overnight,nor is it free!!
You make this assumption,it's all about what you believe and the organization that you represent & I for one believe and that's whats most important to me.Anyone out there reading this,take it for what its worth without pointing fingers;I close with this quote "Believe
In Yourself & No Matter What You Represent,You Can & Will have it all & succeed"

TK
www.Reversefunnelwinner.com
1-609-489-5095

...and there's franco calling someone negative because they aren't happy being lied to again. It is seriously insane how fast people like franco and budd are to jump on somebody who isn't happy being completely deceived and lied to in order to take their $3000, and turn it to make "them" look bad. Isn't that something?

If you stay quiet, you're ok.
If you're raise your voice because you've been LIED into the RFS, then you're negative.

Look guys, I have plenty of people in my downline. Over 60 to be exact. That is not a bragging thing, i obviously have a ton less than franco or budd, but i don't care. I am richer in confidence, and I feel good being "real" to my members. I don't have to lie and deceive to make MORE money, I'm happy making the money I am without having to piss people off.

Fact is, I don't care if it's just copy or what (that is a LAME excuse), it is LIE after LIE after LIE, and it's THAT copy that is getting people to pull their credit cards out.

Let me focus on one lie in particular that could get the RFS in a lot of trouble.
"We have not had ONE cancellation, ever."
Well, that's not what corporate are saying. In fact, they're quite pissed because of the abundance of people quitting the RFS and asking for release from their sponsors (most that have never had contact with them!) Don't believe me? Call head office, they'll tell you themselves. They are SWAMPED with RFS releases. How's that for "never had a cancellation"?

Ok, Budd and Franco, go ahead, tell me I'm negative and will never do well... tell people that they would never succeed with a person like me. It's fine, i'm obviously not here to recruit. But just remember, by doing that, you're telling people that they won't succeed unless they lie and decieve people into their organization. Also, if they miss these lies ahead of time and find out afterwards, do NOT say a thing, or you'll belittle them and tell them they're "negative".

Frankly, that's not my style. I'm happy, my team is happy, we're making money - and it's good, honest money.
I'd rather make $60K honest dollars than $100K dishonest dollars. It's your name boys, and your future.

BM

...and there's franco calling someone negative because they aren't happy being lied to again. It is seriously insane how fast people like franco and budd are to jump on somebody who isn't happy being completely deceived and lied to in order to take their $3000, and turn it to make "them" look bad. Isn't that something?

If you stay quiet, you're ok.
If you're raise your voice because you've been LIED into the RFS, then you're negative.

Look guys, I have plenty of people in my downline. Over 60 to be exact. That is not a bragging thing, i obviously have a ton less than franco or budd, but i don't care. I am richer in confidence, and I feel good being "real" to my members. I don't have to lie and deceive to make MORE money, I'm happy making the money I am without having to piss people off.

Fact is, I don't care if it's just copy or what (that is a LAME excuse), it is LIE after LIE after LIE, and it's THAT copy that is getting people to pull their credit cards out.

Let me focus on one lie in particular that could get the RFS in a lot of trouble.
"We have not had ONE cancellation, ever."
Well, that's not what corporate are saying. In fact, they're quite pissed because of the abundance of people quitting the RFS and asking for release from their sponsors (most that have never had contact with them!) Don't believe me? Call head office, they'll tell you themselves. They are SWAMPED with RFS releases. How's that for "never had a cancellation"?

Ok, Budd and Franco, go ahead, tell me I'm negative and will never do well... tell people that they would never succeed with a person like me. It's fine, i'm obviously not here to recruit. But just remember, by doing that, you're telling people that they won't succeed unless they lie and decieve people into their organization. Also, if they miss these lies ahead of time and find out afterwards, do NOT say a thing, or you'll belittle them and tell them they're "negative".

Frankly, that's not my style. I'm happy, my team is happy, we're making money - and it's good, honest money.
I'd rather make $60K honest dollars than $100K dishonest dollars. It's your name boys, and your future.

BM

Whoa, petree... Get out of trying to make a go at anything.

You belong in a JOB - You have the wrong energy to be trying anything entreprenerial...

Your attitude needs a serious adjustment if you plan on ever being successful. I am not saying this to be cruel, it's the truth.

It saddens me when I see people give up at the level you have.

Petree, if you keep this negative attitude up you are never going to do anything but flip freakin burgers.

Franco has summed it all up for you...Now quit your whining and either dust off your resume and get a stinkin job or become an entrepreneur. From the sounds of it, the job is likely the best option for you.

p.s. one more thing before I go...as I stated on the Wahm site...to any one looking at this system not GRN but RFS...please take this into consideration...you can be sued for simply being apart of the misrepresentation that your RFS site states if the wrong person lands on it...if you don't think it can happen...think again. HEE HEE I will get the joke out of the way I see the FBI coming for me already...I did not say FBI....I said an individual that decides to start a class action lawsuit!!

Again Jonathan, it is something that you just don't get...you are blinded by $$$$$....All the comebacks in the WORLD will NOT CHANGE the fact that what you are selling are lies....NO WONDER IT SELLS....IT ALL LIES!!!!!!

Well as I said on the Wahm forum...It is time for me to go...see ya just wouldn't want to be ya!!!

Regardless of the fact if it is converting for some and not for others...YOU ARE SELLING BOLD FACE LIES!! THAT IS THE PROBLEM!!!!!

Jonathan, Your ABSOLUTELY CORRECT....I CHOOSE TO JOIN THE BUSINESS ON WHAT I READ...DUDE, your the one that needs to grow up!!!!

Petree,

You're not even making any sense man. Lies and deception? Dude, grow up. Take some responsibility for yourself that you made a choice to join a businesss and you didn't succeed.

That's the bottom line. You Chose to join a business, and based off lack of marketing skills and knowledge/support...you didn't succeed.

It's time for REAL ENTREPRENEURS to take REAL RESPONSIBILITY. Seriously. You think you can just roll into the world of online marketing without becoming a STUDENT first?

You think you can just roll into this industry of being a home based business entrepreneur, put in a little effort, and all of a sudden money is falling from the sky? c'mon man, that is SO CHILDISH. And anyone who thinks like that deserves to lose money because they need to LEARN what it means to be a real entrepreneur.

Now, I've been dead honest and exposed the RFS weaknesses right here, because every program and system has weaknesses, but on the same token it is APPARENT that this system has some serious strengths that offset its weaknesses big time.

And that's APPARENT because of the amount of duplication we are seeing in downlines, and the amount of total beginners that have actually made sales and money their first few months in this business.

Usually that's non existent. But in this business, we've seen many people close sales in their first few months. And the ones that are doing, are pluggin in to REAL KNOWLEDGE, our marketing sources and training, and they are TAKING ACTION.

THey aren't sitting around complaining, because that rarely gets one closer to success. But they are taking action, and doing the tasks that create income. It's really that simple.

Success comes down to

1. Knowledge
2. Action
3. Time

That simple.

This program duplicates, it converts, its allowing more people to be successful then normally EVER are in this industry...and its about plugging in, working hard, and doing the right actions.

Something ANYONE can do if they really really want to.

All the best,
Jonathan

well, I guess that is one way to look at it...but we all know that money just isn't created out of thin air...so in reality what you have done is stold it away from people based on lies and deception that probably needed it more!

OOPS... I made a HUGE mistake in my math!!!!!! DARN!!!!


You see I stated that by growing a team of around 375 people I've helped generate and place about $375,000 in the pockets of good families globally in the last 3 months...

(they did it... I just helped kick off the Butterfly Effect)


But I TOTALLY MESSED UP!!!


I made a $375,000 mistake!!!


Because each sales in this crazy system generates NOT (1) $1,000 commission....


It generates (2) $1,000 commissions on each sale!!!


So that means I actually messed around and helped bring back about $750,000 in NET COMMISSIONS TO families!!!!!


COOL stuff man, that is un-friggin believable in ONLY 3 months!!!!


Man...


Why hate on that???



Show me a program, business system or JOB that has done that in the last 3 months (Alex Rodriguez and other pro athletes don't count)...


SHOW ME ONE... so I can promote them too! LOL


NEGATIVITY SUCKS!!!


GET YOUR MINDSET RIGHT!!!


What has any negativity produced for others in the last 3 months compared to our team's results and mind you...


WE ARE JUST ONE HUMBLE TEAM!!!


I know people are whining and complaining... but it's the same in all of life... seems EVERYONE loves to complain these days...


Such a cop out!!


Just an excuse to have millions of little pitty parties around the globe...



LOOK AT THE RESULTS... and then think... why bash this?


Why not bash something else that's truly harming people???


Like senseless famines in a world this abundant?

Tyranical wars... and the plight of the true poor...


Lets get to providing solutions... not whining about failing... failing is like falling man... just get your ass up and keep moving forward...


It's the Marines in me man...


Can't stand a little whiner... Complaining is for LOSERS.


There is just so much automation and systems out here.. it's so much simpler than it used to be... learn simple marketing skills and make a grip of cash for your little ones... stop making excuses people!

We can help... and others can too... Just look for the positive ones...


PEACE!!


Franco

Hey BrianM,

I know you're concerned for humanity and want to make sure that they don't succumb to the pain of failure in RFS or any other "scam" out there that would take their money...

That's great and I feel your devotion to the common good...


But Christmas is coming bro and I was just looking at what I've done to stuff a few people's stockings with extra cash this season...


With all your negativity and all your bashing... how much have you actually helped people with this year?

I mean, count it up...

How much good have you contributed to your fellow man this year if you're so concerned?

Have you actually brought any tangible positive growth or financial betterment to your fellow human beings this year? How much?

Or are you just full of a different kind of hype and overexageration?

Are you helping your family or others get out from the debt that's plaguing them?

Did you make a dent at changing their financial situations?


Or were you just full of talk?

Excuses...

Whining...

And selfish concern for you and only you?

You see because I just ran some basic numbers earlier today, because my wife asked me how much money I've helped OTHERS make...

And I've been so busy working on teaching marketing and automating some pretty trick marketing support systems...

That it's been a while since I checked...

But look, here's what the internet and leverage can do...

ALL done by a cool little concept called the Reverse Funnel System... my vehicle of choice because people resonate with the crazy website... and if they join my team... they get a realistic shot at generating income they've never generated before because they had to learn LOTS of skills that only professional sales people get close to mastering...


But hey you seem to like to read, here are some cold financial facts:


Like I said before, I haven't really made a lot of sales with this compared to others...

In the 3 months it's been out I've only had 42 direct sales.
(2 came in while I was goofing around in Las Vegas with my wife this weekend and you were probably reading this thread making no money... for you or anyone else)


But here's the thing...


Out of those 42 sales $42,000 went into my greedy, selfish little pocket right (I assume by what you've written you think I'm just a selfish greedy miser) maybe not and that would be cool.


But by MY marketing efforts I have also placed $42,000 directly in the pockets of my sponsor which is a super stay at home mom who home school's her 2 little boys in Nashville Tenn.

So those 2 little dudes are gonna have a pretty cool christmas in a few weeks, God willing, and I had a little part in their happiness and security... and that feels really good.


Did you help put $42,000 in the home of a decent, hard working family this year "BrianM"???

If you did, good for you man, because that's what it's all about...


But I was a little bit busier...


You see after I worked to build a pretty solid frontline team with this program, I refocussed on helping my team.


MOST people in this industry have NO CLUE how to drive traffic to a website.


All kinds of jokers "making believe" they know something will sell these people "how to" junk and nickle and dime them to death in $27 or $97 pricepoints...

I don't do that. I help as much as I can with automated training sites, forums, blogs, rotators, coops, JVs you name it but my main goal is to help those that want to be helped...

And I've had some cool results...

Of those 42 I personally brought in with this site you work so hard to bash...

A full 50% (21 people) have actually made sales as well. Mind you at our expensive pricepoint and most with absolutely no skills for marketing and having never made a dime online after trying other programs. And I'm NOT one to bash programs, because I know for a fact most of them are created, ran and promoted by good decent people who want to make money in other ways other than being stuck to some ego loaded employer for 40 years that's gonna want to lay them off or cut their benefits when they get too old anyway...


But anyway... so 50% of the people who joined me have actually made sales and generated $1,000 commissions.

And a full 50% of those folks have made MULTIPLE sales.


With this hyped up scam of a system (the way you put it I guess)...


But how much has it grown to in dollars...


Dollars in pockets is what counts...


By team right now has grown to over 375 people.


In 3 months.


And I only sold 42 of them.


So our training systems, and support and this business opportunity has had a direct impact in putting over $375,000 in the pockets of families in ONLY THE LAST 3 MONTHS.


How good would that make you feel?


KNOWING that ignoring the negative hypsters I've managed to have a say in the Butterfly Effect that has helped put over $375,000 in the homes of families to help them with bills, gifts, birthday parties, anniversaries, quiet dinners at home, and also lets count in the very real stress relief that comes with gaining even a little more financial relief and control...


So my question then naturally is this...


While you're working on your great come back to reveal to the globe what a scam and a lie this little crazy website is...


WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO PROVIDE SOLUTIONS TO YOUR FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS THIS YEAR?


And I know it's about more than money...


I know that...


But lets keep it real...


You're posting negative about a business opportunity system in the home business niche of online marketing and the score in this part of the world is kept in DOLLARS or CURRENCY...


So since you're so full of yourself and brave to come in here and point everything out that you believe to be wrong or that doesn't work...


What have you done to provide solutions???


How much MONEY have you helped put in the homes of OTHERS in the same time frame????


Who is the real selfish one here "BrianM"?



I'll keep doing what I do in multiple programs and systems to show people how to put money in their pockets so they can take that home and provide a better lifestyle for their families...

I'm convinced that the vast majority of people in these programs starting from the creators are actually decent human beings man...

Just wanting to create ways that generate cash for others and themselves that are "outside of the corporate box"...


They are not mean people. And the few that misuse and just crank sales with no regard for others... are actually the minority.


It's why I LOVE this industry. And I don't bash programs... in their own way, they all work if they are worked right by good people and a lot more good is done via these programs than bad...


So save your whining for the next sucker man...


Negative hype is harmful too.


Be solution oriented and look to help others in your own way...


I've done my part and I'll do more. As much as I can.

We're just breaking through people's paradigms man... and some people hate change so much (even positive change) that they'll do all kinds of weird stuff to try and prove the world aint spinnin or the ocean's not deep...


The world is ABUNDANT. Get over it.


And start to work for solutions...


You sound silly man...

WHERE ARE YOUR RESULTS?


How many have you helped?


Yeah... think about that one...


It's one thing to have some loud opinions...


It's another to just blow a lot of hot air...

I'd respect your opinions more if they were backed up with your solutions, alternatives and proven results of how much you've helped others...

So far...


Just a load of negative hype and propaganda...


Don't hate. Provide solutions... it's more respected.


Franco
$375,000+ right to other family's bank accounts and counting...

Oh, wait a minute Franco. Are you telling me that if you recognize that the RFS is full of lies (many of them listed below - which is unethical and against the law) - that you're automatically "negative"?

You're using a type of repression that doesn't work with me. You can't turn peoples concerns with being lied to into negativity.

If you went to McDonalds and was promised 2 patties on your burger - and then opened it to see that there was just a piece of cardboard in there, should you still pump up the double burger? Would you be "negative" to actually say something? Come on, Franco. Give it a rest.

I'll as you and Budd now, please comment on the following claims from the RFS sales page:

"The fact is, within the first 48 hours of receiving access to my System, 80% of my Partners made over $1000, and nearly half of the others made over $3,000!"

"We have yet to receive a single refund request- and I am committed to make sure it stays that way"

"I am absolutely 100% convinced that my "Pinch yourself to see if you're still alive NO FAILURE Proven System"..."

"My secret, well-guarded system, which has been developed to an exact science, illuminates the failure mechanisms most people run into out of the equation... meaning it takes YOU out of the equation, you can't mess it up."

"Keep in mind, my System takes YOU out of the equation... You can't mess it up! That's why it works!"

"You are going to take my 65% conversion ads and with the assistance of our marketing department, a team of REAL internet marketing gurus... you will simply place ADS where you are directed to place them."

"ucky for you there are your friends (and mine) Mr. "Visa" and Mr. "Master Card" to help bankroll your first couple of weeks in business.... after that your business profits will fund your new business."

"Once you buy this offer and assuming you are selected then you will have the opportunity to work directly with me in developing multiple streams of income in
High Yield Opportunities"

BM

Oh, wait a minute Franco. Are you telling me that if you recognize that the RFS is full of lies (many of them listed below - which is unethical and against the law) - that you're automatically "negative"?

You're using a type of repression that doesn't work with me. You can't turn peoples concerns with being lied to into negativity.

If you went to McDonalds and was promised 2 patties on your burger - and then opened it to see that there was just a piece of cardboard in there, should you still pump up the double burger? Would you be "negative" to actually say something? Come on, Franco. Give it a rest.

I'll as you and Budd now, please comment on the following claims from the RFS sales page:

"The fact is, within the first 48 hours of receiving access to my System, 80% of my Partners made over $1000, and nearly half of the others made over $3,000!"

"We have yet to receive a single refund request- and I am committed to make sure it stays that way"

"I am absolutely 100% convinced that my "Pinch yourself to see if you're still alive NO FAILURE Proven System"..."

"My secret, well-guarded system, which has been developed to an exact science, illuminates the failure mechanisms most people run into out of the equation... meaning it takes YOU out of the equation, you can't mess it up."

"Keep in mind, my System takes YOU out of the equation... You can't mess it up! That's why it works!"

"You are going to take my 65% conversion ads and with the assistance of our marketing department, a team of REAL internet marketing gurus... you will simply place ADS where you are directed to place them."

"ucky for you there are your friends (and mine) Mr. "Visa" and Mr. "Master Card" to help bankroll your first couple of weeks in business.... after that your business profits will fund your new business."

"Once you buy this offer and assuming you are selected then you will have the opportunity to work directly with me in developing multiple streams of income in
High Yield Opportunities"

BM

You know what I did have some respect for Jonathan, I take back what I said about him....I am glad I quit RFS...And, I am not here to complain...I know I F****D up...Shame on me. I got sucked into the hype...actually thought RFS was legitimate. Looking back now....What was I thinking? I gave everyone of my $50 leads a refund and praised them for not joining.

Yes Budd, the RFS converts and makes you money, but is it done ethically? Are you not assisting with the lies projected on the "sales copy"? Do you feel good allowing others to be "converted" based on lies and false claims? Do you not think that these "unrealistic" claims are setting people up for disappointment?

BM
Do you think it's ok that the RFS has the claim that they have not received ONE refund request, when we know that is a lie? Isn't that illegal?

Sorry Jonathan...you just don't get it bud...no pun intended
The following is not sales copy....they are BOLD FACE LIES!!!

For anyone doing research on the Reverse Funnel System...if you are not prepared to SELL YOURSELF FIRST just like you can do with any other program or system out there...I strongly suggest you take Mr. Budd's own advice:
"Now here's the real deal. If you're being smart, you would look at RFS and say, "you know what, I'm not ready for this yet."

As for me...I am going to take his advice...I simply am not prepared to sacrifice my morals to make a buck.

"Keep in mind, my System takes YOU out of the equation... You can't mess it up! That's why it works!"

"Keep in mind, my System takes YOU out of the equation... You can't mess it up! That's why it works!"

"Keep in mind, my System takes YOU out of the equation... You can't mess it up! That's why it works!"